I love podcasts. They make me feel smarter, inspired and connected – and I can listen to them even while I’m dealing with the constant (but often mind-numbing and isolating) demands of caring for small children and managing a household. Packing lunches, doing the dishes, ironing and long walks to (please please) get the baby to sleep are infintely less tedious with a good podcast to listen to.
Here are three of my favourite podcast episodes with wonderful mama leaders:
Ita Buttrose: Osher Gunsberg Podcast (episode 61)
Often when we see experienced, successful people easy to forget and to overlook that they had to start somewhere. This episode has great insights and stories about making a career in media from a woman without peer, being pregnant in the boardroom in the 70s, and pushing women’s issues into mainstream conversation. And a wonderful story about initiative and why you should pack a tea towel in your bag!
Sheryl Sandberg (with Adam Grant) on resilience after unimaginable loss: On Being with Krista Tippett
Sheryl Sandberg, Facebook COO and author of Lean In, lost her husband in 2015 while they were on holiday in Mexico. I needed (lots of) tissues when listening to this episode! It was such a good conversation which provided insight into what the experience of traumatic loss is like, the importance of practicing gratitude, and tips for how to support people who are grieving. Some key takeaways for me were: saying nothing is worse than saying the wrong thing, offer specific assistance rather than open-ended offers that place the burden of requesting help back on the person who is grieving, and the subtle but important difference between asking ‘how are you?’ and ‘how are you feeling today?’.
Natasha Stott-Despoja: No Filter with Mia Freedman
I remember when Natasha Stott-Despoja first entered parliament in 2005 and the attention she got for wearing Doc Martens – it was the first time that I could remember thinking that politics seemed to include ‘real’ people! She had her first baby while serving as Senator for South Australia and served as a role model for many working mothers. This episode made me think about how important it is to have women in positions of influence and power that demand that their workplaces acknowledge and accommodate their role as mothers.
Take this topic further:
- If the interview with Sheryl Sandburg and Adam Grant piqued your interest, you might also enjoy reading their book Option B*
- Anabel Crab’s book The Wife Drought* has some really interesting interviews with women parliamentarians, and the wives of male parliamentarians within it’s pages. Anabel is a political reporter, so is it no surprises that her book contains many insights on motherhood and work from a political perspective
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